Hello All,
I am having an issue with the power in my shop and am left scratching my head pretty hard over it. First I'll describe the set up then my issue. The shop is attached to the main panel with a dual pole 50A breaker fed with 3-3-3 directly buried aluminum. The run to the shop is about 200 feet. In the shop is a 100 amp sub panel that is currently housing 2 20A breakers on a single side of the panel. The first breaker uses all 12 gauge cu and feeds a single plug, three 4 T-12 florescent lights, one 300 watt halogen, and 2 incandescent fixtures. The second breaker uses 14 gauge cu and feeds a single plug and an exterior 2 light flood fixture. When I moved into this house and started using the shop the second breaker was on the right hand post in the panel but any load other than the light would cause a dramatic loss of voltage but not trip the breaker in the sub panel, but the first breaker on the left hand post would power any and all my tools no problem. My solution was to switch the second breaker to the left hand post and that worked for a while. Now the problem has escalated so that any time I use any power on the second breaker including just the flood light causes the breaker in the main panel in the house to trip. The breaker in the house will also trip with moderate use on the first breaker. Moderate use in this case would be a 15 amp tool for longer than 10 min or repeated use in the course of an hour. When I inspect the breaker in the main panel in the house they are very warm and suspect that is their cause of tripping. I should note that not once has either breaker in the shop tripped when any of these issues has occured.
What I have thought so far is that one of the hot wires has a break somewhere underground, most likely the one on the right hand post in the sub panel. I plan on doing a complete rewire of the shop with appropriate wiring and plugs for my needs and also installing new 3-3-3 copper from the main panel to the sub panel in conduit. So my two main questions are: does it sound like there is a break in one of the hot supply wires and is it possible to run the sub panel with only one hot wire to run 2 20 amp breakers?
Sorry for the long vomitous post, but I would really like to be able to work in my shop for longer than an hour at a time. Thank you for any help or insight.
Zach
I am having an issue with the power in my shop and am left scratching my head pretty hard over it. First I'll describe the set up then my issue. The shop is attached to the main panel with a dual pole 50A breaker fed with 3-3-3 directly buried aluminum. The run to the shop is about 200 feet. In the shop is a 100 amp sub panel that is currently housing 2 20A breakers on a single side of the panel. The first breaker uses all 12 gauge cu and feeds a single plug, three 4 T-12 florescent lights, one 300 watt halogen, and 2 incandescent fixtures. The second breaker uses 14 gauge cu and feeds a single plug and an exterior 2 light flood fixture. When I moved into this house and started using the shop the second breaker was on the right hand post in the panel but any load other than the light would cause a dramatic loss of voltage but not trip the breaker in the sub panel, but the first breaker on the left hand post would power any and all my tools no problem. My solution was to switch the second breaker to the left hand post and that worked for a while. Now the problem has escalated so that any time I use any power on the second breaker including just the flood light causes the breaker in the main panel in the house to trip. The breaker in the house will also trip with moderate use on the first breaker. Moderate use in this case would be a 15 amp tool for longer than 10 min or repeated use in the course of an hour. When I inspect the breaker in the main panel in the house they are very warm and suspect that is their cause of tripping. I should note that not once has either breaker in the shop tripped when any of these issues has occured.
What I have thought so far is that one of the hot wires has a break somewhere underground, most likely the one on the right hand post in the sub panel. I plan on doing a complete rewire of the shop with appropriate wiring and plugs for my needs and also installing new 3-3-3 copper from the main panel to the sub panel in conduit. So my two main questions are: does it sound like there is a break in one of the hot supply wires and is it possible to run the sub panel with only one hot wire to run 2 20 amp breakers?
Sorry for the long vomitous post, but I would really like to be able to work in my shop for longer than an hour at a time. Thank you for any help or insight.
Zach
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