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    i recently bought a house that had what i thought was a nicely reno'd updstairs bath.

    today the temperature dipped to -13C and the water stopped running out of my sink.

    i had felt coldness around the floor AND on the ceiling below around the patio door below so i went outside and removed some of the fascia and soffit to see what i could see.

    here is what i found - the insulation is a joke. the patio door was never really insulated, and the pipes can easily be seen from the outside (*once i removed some wood and insulation)

    this is the view from the back, the bathroom is the dormer above

    the view gets closer and closer

    HELP!!! i don't know what to do. I used a heater and got the water flowing again to the sink -- how do i prevent it from freezing again?

    if i spray foam the pipes will this stop the freezing?

    thanks



    ARGH RETARDED FORUM RULES!! pics to come once i meet your 15 post criteria
    Last edited by plumber red; 01-30-2010, 11:06 AM.

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                        last picture -- i think i may hire a guy to spray foam the crap out of the entire space above the patio door, looks like it was not insulated at all when it was installed.

                        thoughts?

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                          The post rule is a bit of a pain huh...
                          Sorry about that I've said the same thing many times...

                          Yet a spam message like this one remains despite being flagged...

                          Go figure!

                          Insulation will slow the freezing process but given enough time it will still freeze.

                          If possible insulate so the warm side (inside your home) has better access to the pipes than the cold side (outside) this will allow the inside warmth to heep the pipes from freezing.

                          I.E. Pipes in the attic would be placed against the ceiling of the heated room below then insulation would be placed on top.

                          Can the pipes be rerouted into warmer areas?
                          Get them back out of the soffit.

                          Some places such as Massachusetts have strict laws regarding plumbing and frozen pipes that hold the plumber liable for pipes that freeze. Check the laws in your state you may have recourse.
                          Last edited by Redwood; 01-30-2010, 01:51 PM.
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