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    Hi All. I have a question. I do handyman type stuff all the time but have always been wary of electrical. I install/change outlets, wire fans, etc but that's about it. I just bought a new dishwasher and disposal in an older (1964) home and want to wire them myself. I'm sure I can fish the cable through the house etc but the panel is old and I've never seen these brand of breakers. They're thin and the switches are in light blue, red, and green. Weird. Can I buy a conversion kit to make a square-D brand fit in there? And does anyone have any advice otherwise? I'm planning on just picking up a fish tape and a roll of 12/2 wire and running 2 lines. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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    Look inside the cover of your electrical panel and see if there is a brand name listed. Also remove one of the breakers and see if there is any writing on them to indicate the amperage and the brand.

    If you're gonna run a new line for both your appliances then make sure that you install a receptacle box for each instead of just stubbing the romex out from the wall. Install a simplex receptacle in the boxs instead of a duplex also. Mount the receptacle for the dishwasher to one side of center or the other to the dishwashers rear location. It'll be easier to plug in the cord that way since the motor is mounted usually around mid center on the bottom.

    You'll also want to probably install a switch for your GD, so run 2 cables up to the switch location from down below in the basement(it's easier to fish 2 cables up together). One of these cables will go to the breaker panel and the other cable will go to the receptacle box under the sink for your GD

    You'll need an old work box for the dishwasher and you'll need either another one for the GD, or buy a 4x4 metal box and a plaster ring so you can mount it externally on the inside of your sink base.

    Hope this helps, Oh, and don't forget a cord for each one, make sure you get one's that are rated for the amperage that they pull. The dishwasher cord can be no longer than 6 ft either.

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    • #3
      Moorem..
      In addition to the electrical requirements there are some plumbing issues you will need to change when adding a disposal and dishwasher. I will post a thread on Dishwasher installation in the plumbing forum.

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      • #4
        Thanks, will do. I appreciate the help!
        quote:Originally posted by kactuskid

        Look inside the cover of your electrical panel and see if there is a brand name listed. Also remove one of the breakers and see if there is any writing on them to indicate the amperage and the brand.

        If you're gonna run a new line for both your appliances then make sure that you install a receptacle box for each instead of just stubbing the romex out from the wall. Install a simplex receptacle in the boxs instead of a duplex also. Mount the receptacle for the dishwasher to one side of center or the other to the dishwashers rear location. It'll be easier to plug in the cord that way since the motor is mounted usually around mid center on the bottom.

        You'll also want to probably install a switch for your GD, so run 2 cables up to the switch location from down below in the basement(it's easier to fish 2 cables up together). One of these cables will go to the breaker panel and the other cable will go to the receptacle box under the sink for your GD

        You'll need an old work box for the dishwasher and you'll need either another one for the GD, or buy a 4x4 metal box and a plaster ring so you can mount it externally on the inside of your sink base.

        Hope this helps, Oh, and don't forget a cord for each one, make sure you get one's that are rated for the amperage that they pull. The dishwasher cord can be no longer than 6 ft either.

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        • #5
          Is it a requirement to install a single outlet for the DW and GD boxes? I just did these but put it regular 20A duplex outlets becuase thats what we had around. I can understand maybe the GD outlet (Which I surface mounted under the sink) but who's gonna plug anything into the DW outlet? Its completely inaccessable without taking off the DW bottom cover.

          (Hope I'm not posting too much these days...)

          ~Jonathon Reinhart
          ~Jonathon Reinhart

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          • #6
            You should start a new thread when asking a new question, it gets to confusing when you try to tag on to an old or exisiting thread. But to answer your question, yes, a simplex outlet is required and not a duplex outlet. The reason being is so no other device can be plugged into the circuit, it's a safety issue since it's around water and not a GFCI receptacle

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