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  • rdw5466
    New Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 18

    #1

    Gas Water Heater Flue Piping

    We live in a 100+ yr old farmhouse and I am planning to replace my asphalt roof this summer. Before I can get to that, the brick chimney is falling apart and I would like to remove it entirely to the basement. The natural gas water heater is the only device using it, as the furnace was replaced a few years ago with a high efficiency direct vent model w/pvc flue piping. I would like to relocate the water heater, but my flue route options are limited to another direct vent or to reuse the chimney shaft with new piping (25ft+). Is is possible to place it close to an exterior wall then vent outside using 45deg elbows vertically?
  • paul52446m
    Journeyman
    • Nov 2009
    • 690

    #2
    Originally posted by rdw5466
    We live in a 100+ yr old farmhouse and I am planning to replace my asphalt roof this summer. Before I can get to that, the brick chimney is falling apart and I would like to remove it entirely to the basement. The natural gas water heater is the only device using it, as the furnace was replaced a few years ago with a high efficiency direct vent model w/pvc flue piping. I would like to relocate the water heater, but my flue route options are limited to another direct vent or to reuse the chimney shaft with new piping (25ft+). Is is possible to place it close to an exterior wall then vent outside using 45deg elbows vertically?
    A standard water heater can be vented through a side wall. they will not draft right with winds and cold weather. You would have to buy a hi. eff. heater that are made to side wall vent. Venting up the 25' would have to be the right size, not a larger stack. Later Paul

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    • Redwood
      Journeyman
      • Feb 2009
      • 512

      #3
      Yea so when you side wall vent it and it doesn't draft right whats a little carbon monoxide in the house....
      Sheesh!
      I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
      Now I can Plumb!

      For great information on the history of sanitary sewers including the use of Redwood Pipe
      Visit http://www.sewerhistory.org/
      Did you know some Redwood Pipe is still in service today.

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      • rdw5466
        New Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 18

        #4
        If the side wall is an option, are there retro-fit power vents available or would a new water heater with a power vent a better choice?

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        • paul52446m
          Journeyman
          • Nov 2009
          • 690

          #5
          Originally posted by rdw5466
          If the side wall is an option, are there retro-fit power vents available or would a new water heater with a power vent a better choice?
          I think the new water heater would be the way to go, you get a lot of money into those kits and you still have a heater that is not that eff.. later paul

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          • rdw5466
            New Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 18

            #6
            A local supply store has a regular natgas heater on sale with a rebate, so my plans might change. I'd like to to use the chimney as a chase and run B vent inside. I could then remove the chimney above the roof and install a new metal cap. I'm not sure how to support the pipe inside the chimeny though.

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            • paul52446m
              Journeyman
              • Nov 2009
              • 690

              #7
              Originally posted by rdw5466
              A local supply store has a regular natgas heater on sale with a rebate, so my plans might change. I'd like to to use the chimney as a chase and run B vent inside. I could then remove the chimney above the roof and install a new metal cap. I'm not sure how to support the pipe inside the chimeny though.
              If you put a B vent ell and a short B vent coming out of the chimney and cement it in that will help support it. You are running the 3" B vent through
              a new flashing so you can put screws through the flashing into the pipe.
              It should out live both of us. Later Paul

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              • Redwood
                Journeyman
                • Feb 2009
                • 512

                #8
                Originally posted by paul52446m
                If you put a B vent ell and a short B vent coming out of the chimney and cement it in that will help support it. You are running the 3" B vent through
                a new flashing so you can put screws through the flashing into the pipe.
                It should out live both of us. Later Paul
                That sounds like a fine plan to me...
                I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
                Now I can Plumb!

                For great information on the history of sanitary sewers including the use of Redwood Pipe
                Visit http://www.sewerhistory.org/
                Did you know some Redwood Pipe is still in service today.

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                • peterinker
                  New Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 1

                  #9
                  In relocating the piping in the side wall you may need a higher efficient heater. This could prevent the temperature from dropping down. You need a plumber for the pipelines.

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                  • paul52446m
                    Journeyman
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 690

                    #10
                    Originally posted by peterinker
                    In relocating the piping in the side wall you may need a higher efficient heater. This could prevent the temperature from dropping down. You need a plumber for the pipelines.
                    It is ok for a home owner to run his own water lines. As long as he is putting
                    a 3" gas vent inside the old chimney i think it would stay warm enough to work just fine. Paul

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