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What is the best sealer treatment for redwood decks?
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JMcGrath01,
If you are looking for a brand name referral... I use the 'Thompson' brand. If the deck has been built for awhile you should clean it first and let it dry then apply the sealer. I clean and re-apply a sealer it every two years and it looks like new again.
Good luck, Jim
'Just a handyman trying to help''Just a handyman trying to help' -
Jimmer
Why am I being told by Lowes and HD folks the Thompsons brand is junk? they are pointing me towards Penofin and Olympia MAster?Comment
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JMcGrath01,
Not sure. They may not sell Thompsons and therefore don't want you going elsewhere for the purchase or they may really not like the product.
I have had no problem with it. It is priced okay, seals my deck, and it lasts.
Good luck, Jim
'Just a handyman trying to help''Just a handyman trying to help'Comment
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I have a home in Denver, Colorado that my Dad and I sided with cedar in 2000. I do my own carpentry, electrical, dry wall & plumbing. I also am employed full time as a field Molecular (DNA) Biologist (Scientist). Before I stained my new cedar home, I called penofin's manufacturer "Performance Coatings" (technical service department) several times in Ukiah, CA to see about how it worked, how much to apply and how to apply it. Spoke with their "specialists" and wrote down all their instructions to the finest detail. Then applied it just as I was instructed. (To work as a Molecular scientist, I have to be detail oriented.) This product was the worse thing I have ever seen. The Rosewood Oil in the product, immediately turned my house brown. Then because it did nothing to protect it against the sun's UV's, it turned my house dark brown to black within months. Furthermore, I called Performance Coatings soon after the first application, but for three years, their technical service dept. kept assuring me that the house would lighten up with repeated sun exposure. But it only got darker. Their technical service department and marketing dept. do a good job of trying to con the consumer. I've gotten nothing but a run around this year from their clueless marketing clowns.
Finally, I started taking matters into my own hands instead of believing the lies that Performance Coatings was telling me. I met several log and cedar home owners at several large Home Shows who had experienced the exact same outcome as I did with penofin. And it didn't matter if they hired "wood specialists" to apply the product or the home owner did it themselves. (Remember, penofin is sold at Home Depot where 80% of their business is to home owners!) Also met and talked to several wood specialists who claim that they would lose significant business if it wasn't for the requests that they get from the plethora number of dissatisfied penofin customers who ask them to strip penofin off of their cedar or log homes and replace it with their own proven product. There is an entire subdivision of cedar homes in the area that a contractor put in and had stained with penofin. These are all entirely solid black now. A friend of mine's father, retired but formerly a reknown cardiologist, has a cedar home in penofin, and it's entirely black. penofin's excuse is that we didn't apply it properly. I am a scientist and the other home owners hired professionals. If we can't do it right, then this product shouldn't be sold period. Home Depot has now recognized this product as a problem. I sent a letter to them, with pictures, receipts etc., and they admitted that there was a problem. But I do give them credit. Unlike Performance Coatings who live in denial, Home Depot reimbursed me for the entire purchase of this product with an apology. But that's the difference between a good business (Home Depot) and an extremely poor one (Performance Coatings).
After talking to many a cedar and log home owners, I ultimately hired a "Wood Iron" specialist to strip off the penofin and replace it with "Wood Iron". I am EXTRMELY pleased with the results. My home has a beautiful light maple coloring to it that I had always tried to achieve. "Wood Iron" is sold nationally and their specialists are listed in the Yellow Pages under "Wood Finishing & Restoration". I was convinced that it was the real deal after talking to a log home manufacturer himself, whose office was a 2 story log home structure. Their log building is right next to a major expressway and thus exposed to large amounts of dirt & salt (in the winter) etc. Yet, even after four years, it looked absolutely beautiful. I was so impressed with what the owner told me, on how well the product (Wood Iron) performed etc., that I knew it would work. And it has. Now, my neighbors are so impressed with how my home looks with penofin forever gone and Wood Iron in it's full glory. I have even gotten compliments from the neighborhood children!
I'd highly recommend not walking away from penofin but running away, in fact, run as fast as you can! Remember, always do your homework before you do anything! If they don't offer complete satisfaction or your money back, then, trust me, there's something up with that product!
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Mr McGrath.
Try Defy or Sikkens. Below are some links for these products
DEFY
Sikkens
the folks at Perspectives / Paintsource will also help you alot.Comment
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Pressure wash your deck - Then seal it with Behr's natural sealer - I do mine every 2 years - I live in Indiana - and we get all types of weather - Thompson's is not for me.quote:Originally posted by MRDIY
Mr McGrath.
Try Defy or Sikkens. Below are some links for these products
DEFY
Sikkens
the folks at Perspectives / Paintsource will also help you alot.Comment
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Did you use "Penofin Performance Oil Finish" on your cedar or log home, deck or fence? Did this stain turn your wood finish dark brown or black? Well this is what we've learned you can do!!
#1.) Register your complaint with www.ripoffreport.com This is a free, excellent, well resourced worldwide consumer website. Is accessed by national media, legal communities and consumer watchdog organizations. Submit several photos, along with your report, if at all possible. We have decided that we have learned the hard way about this product after investing much time & money. We were so extremely deceived and have been ignored by Performance Coatings, Inc. for so long, that we are now rallying other victims to join in a nationwide class action lawsuit against Performance Coatings. We've done the homework and are garnering legal representation to go after these guys. So after putting your story & pictures on "ripoffreport.com"; our lawyers will then contact Rip-off Report to have you contact us.
#2.) Make numerous, unrelenting calls (and/or send a letter of complaint) to the makers of "Penofin" i.e. "Performance Coatings". They know that this product does not live up to it's claims, hence rarely return phone calls. However, they fear angry consumers who call them directly! Make sure to let them know exactly what their product did to your home, deck or fence! Performance Coatings, Inc.; P.O. Box 1569; 360 Lake Mendocino Drive; Ukiah, CA 95482; main #707-462-3023 or #1-800-PENOFIN; Fax #707-462-6139; website www.penofin.com; CEO is Barbara Newell #707-462-7459; VP of Sales & Marketing is Joan Griswold #707-462-3023
#3.) If you still need to restore your cedar or log home, deck or fence; we can highly recommend using a product called "Wood Iron". Look in the yellow pages under "Wood Finishing & Restoration" or "Decks-Construction & Maintenance". Most "Wood Iron" professionals are very well versed in removing penofin, as they receive a plethora number of these requests. Remember, you and your home are ALWAYS worth it!
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